Obama's Health Care plan becoming violently unpopular.

It seems that the American public has finally found its voice. The Liberal leadership is finding it increasingly difficult to ignore the mounting sentiment of dissatisfaction among voters. Contrary to the main stream media portrayal these are not “republican lobbyists” or the “Brooks Brother Brigade” they are simply citizens who have become frustrated with public officials who seem to be intentionally disregarding the will of the people in favor of a far left agenda.

The following article characterizes these meetings as violent protests painting the opposition movement as thugs and agitators; nothing could be further from the truth. When Democratic operatives mounted similar opposition to President Bush’s policies they were hailed as defenders of freedom and outraged citizens exercising their first amendment rights. No such courtesy has been given opponents of Obama’s radical agenda.

The following article appeared on MSNBC (excerpts from article appear in bold with commentary from yours truly interspersed):

A volatile mix at health care reform meetings
Democrats charge protesters being organized by conservative lobbyists

By Ian Urbina
The New York Times
updated 11:27 p.m. ET, Fri., Aug 7, 2009

The bitter divisions over an overhaul of the health care system have exploded at town-hall-style meetings over the last few days as members of Congress have been shouted down, hanged in effigy and taunted by crowds. In several cities, noisy demonstrations have led to fistfights, arrests and hospitalizations.

What is conspicuously missing is the fact that the violence has been predominantly instigated by union members and Democratic staffers; not the citizens who oppose health care.

Democrats have said the protesters are being organized by conservative lobbying groups like FreedomWorks. Republicans respond that the protests are an organic response to the Obama administration’s health care restructuring proposals.

There is no dispute, however, that most of the shouting and mocking is from opponents of those plans. Many of those opponents have been encouraged to attend by conservative commentators and Web sites.

Unlike calls to action from groups like Code Pink and web sites like

Become a part of the mob!” said a banner posted Friday on the Web site of the talk show host Sean Hannity. “Attend an Obama Care Townhall near you!” The exhortations do not advocate violence, but some urge opponents to be disruptive.

The phrase “become part of the mob” was precipitated by characterizations, from the main stream media and the left, that participants in these protests were an unruly mob. It is not a designation that was self imposed but a refutation of the mischaracterization.

“Pack the hall,” said a strategy memo circulated by the Web site Tea Party Patriots that instructed, “Yell out and challenge the Rep’s statements early.”

“Get him off his prepared script and agenda,” the memo continued. “Stand up and shout and sit right back down.”

Absolutely! This is a call to force these representatives to answer tough questions instead of reading party dogma. These representatives should be held accountable to the public wich they purport to represent.

Disruptions encouraged

The memo was obtained by the liberal Web site ThinkProgress. Its author, Robert MacGuffie, a founder of the conservative Web site Right Principles, confirmed to The New York Times that the memo was legitimate.

In response, liberal groups and the White House have also started sending supporters instructions for countering what they say are the organized disruptions.

A volatile mix has resulted. In Mehlville, Mo., St. Louis County police officers arrested six people on Thursday evening, some on assault charges, outside a health care and aging forum organized by Representative Russ Carnahan, a Democrat. Opponents of the proposed changes, organized by the St. Louis Tea Party, apparently clashed with supporters organized by the Service Employees International Union outside a school gym.

Yes, but what the author fails to mention, again, is that the violence was precipitated by Obama supporters not the opposition. This is an important point as the omission seems to imply the opposite.

That same day in Romulus, Mich., Representative John D. Dingell, a long-serving Democrat, was shouted down at a health care meeting by a rowdy crowd of foes of health care overhaul, many crying, “Shame on you!” A similar scene unfolded in Denver on Thursday when Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California visited a clinic for the homeless there.

In a statement Friday, Mr. Dingell, 83, deplored those trying to “demagogue the discussion,” but said he would not be deterred. “As long as I have a vote, I will not let shouting, intimidation or misinformation deter me from fighting for this cause,” he said.

What he means is simply this: “screw the will of the people I plan to push forward with my agenda regardless”. He should be held accountable for such an arrogant statement and obvious indifference to the “will of the people”.

The tenor of some of the debates has become extreme. Ms. Pelosi has accused people at recent protests of carrying signs associating the Democratic plan with Nazi swastikas and SS symbols, and some photographs showing such signs have been posted on the Web. On Thursday, the talk show host Rush Limbaugh said the administration’s health care logo was itself similar to a Nazi symbol.

Of course only those who opposed Bush and other Republicans are allowed to display swastikas. How conveniently dismissive of this age old leftist tactic.

On Friday, the Simon Wiesenthal Center and the Anti-Defamation League released statements criticizing the comparison.

Where was the Anti-Defamation League when the comparisons were made between Bush and Hitler?

“It is preposterous to try and make a connection between the president’s health care logo and the Nazi Party symbol, the Reichsadler,” said Rabbi Marvin Hier, the founder and dean of the Wiesenthal center.

On Thursday, top White House aides tried to bolster Senate Democrats during a lunch meeting, arming the lawmakers with tips for avoiding disastrous public forums.

One of these tips seems to be to keep these allegedly public forums secret. What do these people have to hide?

'We will punch back'

“If you get hit, we will punch back twice as hard,” said Jim Messina, the deputy White House chief of staff, according to an official who attended the meeting.

An apt metaphor as that seems to be the very thing that Obama supporters are doing; punching instead of debating the issues.

Earlier this week, Robert Gibbs, the White House press secretary, compared the scenes at health care forums to the “Brooks Brothers brigade” in 2000, a reference to the protests that disrupted the vote count in Miami during the presidential election battle between George W. Bush and Al Gore. Portrayed at the time as local protesters, many were actually Republican staff members flown in from Washington.

This is nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt to discredit Obama opponents. Since arguing the facts would leave them with no defense they revert to the one tried and true tactic they have; ad hominem attacks.

For Representative Steve Kagen, Democrat of Wisconsin, Mr. Gibbs’s criticism rang true.

After he faced heckling during a heated discussion about health care at a forum on Thursday, Mr. Kagen was confronted by a vocal opponent named Heather Blish, who identified herself as “just a mom from a few blocks away” and “not affiliated with any political party.”

When interviewed by the local NBC affiliate, Ms. Blish insisted she was not a member of the Republican Party. But her page on the networking Web site Linked In said she was the vice chairwoman of the Republican Party of Kewaunee County until last year and worked on the campaign of John Gard, a Republican who ran unsuccessfully against Mr. Kagen last year.

Ms. Blish’s boss, Scott Detweiler, owner of, which develops political candidate and campaign Web sites, confirmed that she had been active in local Republican politics. But Mr. Detweiler said she was sincere when she said she was not involved in any party, because she ended her activities with the Republican Party a year and a half ago.

The preceding attempt to dismiss Blish’s opposition based on the fact that she is or was a Republican misses the point entirely. It may well be that a majority of the opposition are Republicans; the response to that is “so what”. Being from one party or another does not invalidate your opinion.

One of the week’s most raucous encounters occurred Thursday in Tampa, Fla., where roughly 1,500 people attended a forum held by Democratic lawmakers, including Representative Kathy Castor. When the auditorium at the Children’s Board of Hillsborough County reached capacity and organizers had to close the doors, the scene descended into violence.

As Ms. Castor began to speak, scuffles broke out as people tried to push their way in. Parts of her remarks were drowned out by chants of “read the bill, read the bill” and “tyranny,” as a video recording of the meeting showed. Outside the meeting, there were competing chants of “Yes we can” and “Just say no.”

The above account of the event seems to be contradicted by footage from the meeting as well as eye witness accounts. It does not mention the fact that the meeting was intentionally stacked with health care supporters or the fact that they were instructed on how to trample down opposition voices. The violence was reported to have broken out when staffers tried to shove opponents out of the hall to close the door.

Some of the protesters told local reporters they had been urged to come by a local activist group promoted by the conservative radio and television host Glenn Beck. Others said they had received e-mail messages from the Hillsborough County Republican Party that urged people to speak out against the plan and offered talking points.

Apparently supporters were also offered talking points and “Dum Dum” suckers to waive in the air anytime opponents of Obama’s plan spoke so as to indicate that opponents were suckers. If the article is going to point out that the opposition was “organized” it is only fair to point out that the proponents were similarly organized. At least one would expect that from an unbiased media.

Elsewhere, there was similar discontent. On Sunday in Morrisville, Pa., Representative Patrick J. Murphy, a Democrat, was forced to scrap plans for a one-on-one, meet-the-congressman session when people in the crowd started shouting, so he agreed to discuss the issue with the entire audience.

Wait, what? Is it a bad thing that he was forced to address the issue with a group of his constituents instead of with a select, hand picked few?

At an appearance at a grocery store in Austin, Tex., on Aug. 1, Representative Lloyd Doggett, a Democrat, was drowned out as he tried to speak on health care change. One opponent had a mock tombstone with Mr. Doggett’s name on it.

Last week, a protester hanged an effigy of Representative Frank Kratovil Jr., Democrat of Maryland, at a rally opposing health care change. This week, Representative Brad Miller, Democrat of North Carolina, said he had received a death threat about his support.

The only thing I see wrong with any of the above actions is making death threats. We have to steady ourselves on the moral high ground here. Leave the idiotic threats and violence to Obama supporters. When we stoop to the level of mob violence and death threats we play into the hands of Obama and his sycophants. We need to keep our hands clean and our credibility intact. We have the truth on our side.

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